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		<title>By: Did Lincoln Die in Vain? &#124; New Wine, New Wineskins</title>
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		<description>[...] country and as the church in this country (See the consumingjesus.org post by Daniel Fan titled “Is Racism Over Now That a Black Man is President of the United States?”. See also the link to The Oregonian “Opinion” piece by Clifford Chappell titled “Is Racism [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bryan Dormaier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Dormaier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, thanks for your reflection and your comments on this.

I remember listening to people saying how the election of Obama was signaling the end of election after the election and thinking to myself &quot;oh no! I really hope we don&#039;t let this lead to an apathy about racism.&quot;

I am reminded of a speech Bob Dylan did shortly after Kennedy was assassinated where he stated that he saw some of himself, and some of the times in Lee Harvey Oswald.  I find this to be an incisive comment about how we move forward, which is to see how we really aren&#039;t that different from the worst, to own it and to actively work against it.

As long as there are people who believe the problem is in those others, be it whites that see it in &quot;those racists,&quot; minorities, etc, we perpetuate the very thing that leads to racism, an us vs. them thinking that says somehow &quot;I am different than them.  I am better than them.&quot;

Growing up, I would never have thought of myself as a racist, it was easy, I lived in an almost all white farm town.  I didn&#039;t really realize the racist tendencies in myself until a couple years ago, working on a strawberry farm with all hispanic workers.  As I worked with these workers, almost immediately I found myself having to deal with stereotypes of young hispanic men being thugs, and my being distrustful towards migrant workers.  Mind you, there&#039;s no way before this experience I would have even thought of myself as being anywhere near racist.  But that experience was very enlightening for me, because it informed me that at some level there&#039;s a root in racism that is a fear of the other, anyone who is different than me.  Only when I name that in myself, and confront it, do I have a chance to make any progress on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, thanks for your reflection and your comments on this.</p>
<p>I remember listening to people saying how the election of Obama was signaling the end of election after the election and thinking to myself &#8220;oh no! I really hope we don&#8217;t let this lead to an apathy about racism.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am reminded of a speech Bob Dylan did shortly after Kennedy was assassinated where he stated that he saw some of himself, and some of the times in Lee Harvey Oswald.  I find this to be an incisive comment about how we move forward, which is to see how we really aren&#8217;t that different from the worst, to own it and to actively work against it.</p>
<p>As long as there are people who believe the problem is in those others, be it whites that see it in &#8220;those racists,&#8221; minorities, etc, we perpetuate the very thing that leads to racism, an us vs. them thinking that says somehow &#8220;I am different than them.  I am better than them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Growing up, I would never have thought of myself as a racist, it was easy, I lived in an almost all white farm town.  I didn&#8217;t really realize the racist tendencies in myself until a couple years ago, working on a strawberry farm with all hispanic workers.  As I worked with these workers, almost immediately I found myself having to deal with stereotypes of young hispanic men being thugs, and my being distrustful towards migrant workers.  Mind you, there&#8217;s no way before this experience I would have even thought of myself as being anywhere near racist.  But that experience was very enlightening for me, because it informed me that at some level there&#8217;s a root in racism that is a fear of the other, anyone who is different than me.  Only when I name that in myself, and confront it, do I have a chance to make any progress on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim:

What does &quot;American&quot; mean to you?

We are all hyphenated americans. It&#039;s just that white people, through the power that they wield, have been able to shorten their moniker to &quot;American.&quot;  That which is in power becomes the norm.  In essence, whites have been able to naturalize that whichisn&#039;t naturally occuring at all (white people in America).   Instead of &quot;Americans&quot; being native americans, native americans are now &quot;indians&quot; (ironic given where India is, no?) and whites of european descent are now Americans.

Really, whites residents in the state of America should refer to themselves as  white-americans.  Maybe that&#039;s the start of ending racism in America?  Putting aside modern day manifest destiny and realizing we are, mostly, all immigrants ourselves?

You say that &quot;Racisim will not be over until minorities choose for it to be over. Until personal responsibility is taken for their own well being and they refuse to be defined by the color of their skin this battle will rage on.&quot;  

But racism isn&#039;t merely about a simple self recognition of difference.  If black people suddenly pretended to be white, that would not change their skin color, their hair, the shape of their noses.  That would not prevent white people from seeing them as different, nor would it prevent white people from acting on this differences.

If we examine in isolation the phenomenon of racism between blacks and whites we can clearly see that it wasn&#039;t the black man who chose the path he was put on today.  It&#039;s not about  a black man saying he&#039;s different.  It was about whites proclaiming how different they were.  Slavery wasn&#039;t a celebration of blackness.  Jim Crow wasn&#039;t the forerunner of Kwanza.   Whites used their technological prowess to enforce a difference.  It was the white man of the time who claimed he was different and that it was his right to keep slaves, displace native peoples from their lands, and create an empire that stretched, politically, from the East Coast, all the way to the Philippines. 

Truth be told, if racism was caused only by minorities talking about being minorities, racism would have been over a long time ago.  It&#039;s the same for poverty right?  Maybe the Holocaust too? which was explicity racial.  The killing fields of Cambodia?  The Sabra and Shatila massacres? The Rape of Nanking?  Sudan? The Bosnian ethnic cleansings? Apartheid?

If the victims had just stood up and said &quot;I&#039;m mad as H-E-Double-Hockey-Sticks and I&#039;m not going to take it anymore!&quot;  none of those tragic events would have happened?

I&#039;m afraid not.

Racism is the combination of differentiation based on outward physical attributes combined with an element of unequal power.  Yes, personal decisions are a part of that matrix, but it also matters whose personal decision it is.

A Waffen SS soldier holds the muzzle of his STG44 to the temple of an eight year old Jewish boy. who&#039;s personal decision matters more?  The boy? or the soldier?  Do you believe that any amount of association that boy tries to make with that SS trooper will matter?  &quot;But sir! I&#039;m a good nazi!  I support the party--bang!  Over.  Finished.  One more step on the road toward the &quot;Final Solution.&quot;

It&#039;s the same in America.  If a white boss refuses to hire a black person for any reason, how much &quot;I&#039;m white&quot; is going to convince that white boss?  How much &quot;I&#039;m an american too?&quot; on the part of that black man will change the white boss&#039;s mind?

What if someone told you that minorities couldn&#039;t be Americans and couldn&#039;t partake the greater prosperity and equality of America precisely because their skin was colored?  That is the essence of racism.

So, you see, if the victim of racism had the choice to overturn racism, racism wouldn&#039;t be an issue.  Don&#039;t blame the victim.

You are right about one thing though: change will come when a choice is made.  Specifically change will come when everyone (both those with power and those without), together, chose to put away racial differences as a method of social, political, economic, and spiritual selection.  Only then, will anyone truly be allowed to live in the the house, the neighborhood, the city, and the country he or she choses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim:</p>
<p>What does &#8220;American&#8221; mean to you?</p>
<p>We are all hyphenated americans. It&#8217;s just that white people, through the power that they wield, have been able to shorten their moniker to &#8220;American.&#8221;  That which is in power becomes the norm.  In essence, whites have been able to naturalize that whichisn&#8217;t naturally occuring at all (white people in America).   Instead of &#8220;Americans&#8221; being native americans, native americans are now &#8220;indians&#8221; (ironic given where India is, no?) and whites of european descent are now Americans.</p>
<p>Really, whites residents in the state of America should refer to themselves as  white-americans.  Maybe that&#8217;s the start of ending racism in America?  Putting aside modern day manifest destiny and realizing we are, mostly, all immigrants ourselves?</p>
<p>You say that &#8220;Racisim will not be over until minorities choose for it to be over. Until personal responsibility is taken for their own well being and they refuse to be defined by the color of their skin this battle will rage on.&#8221;  </p>
<p>But racism isn&#8217;t merely about a simple self recognition of difference.  If black people suddenly pretended to be white, that would not change their skin color, their hair, the shape of their noses.  That would not prevent white people from seeing them as different, nor would it prevent white people from acting on this differences.</p>
<p>If we examine in isolation the phenomenon of racism between blacks and whites we can clearly see that it wasn&#8217;t the black man who chose the path he was put on today.  It&#8217;s not about  a black man saying he&#8217;s different.  It was about whites proclaiming how different they were.  Slavery wasn&#8217;t a celebration of blackness.  Jim Crow wasn&#8217;t the forerunner of Kwanza.   Whites used their technological prowess to enforce a difference.  It was the white man of the time who claimed he was different and that it was his right to keep slaves, displace native peoples from their lands, and create an empire that stretched, politically, from the East Coast, all the way to the Philippines. </p>
<p>Truth be told, if racism was caused only by minorities talking about being minorities, racism would have been over a long time ago.  It&#8217;s the same for poverty right?  Maybe the Holocaust too? which was explicity racial.  The killing fields of Cambodia?  The Sabra and Shatila massacres? The Rape of Nanking?  Sudan? The Bosnian ethnic cleansings? Apartheid?</p>
<p>If the victims had just stood up and said &#8220;I&#8217;m mad as H-E-Double-Hockey-Sticks and I&#8217;m not going to take it anymore!&#8221;  none of those tragic events would have happened?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid not.</p>
<p>Racism is the combination of differentiation based on outward physical attributes combined with an element of unequal power.  Yes, personal decisions are a part of that matrix, but it also matters whose personal decision it is.</p>
<p>A Waffen SS soldier holds the muzzle of his STG44 to the temple of an eight year old Jewish boy. who&#8217;s personal decision matters more?  The boy? or the soldier?  Do you believe that any amount of association that boy tries to make with that SS trooper will matter?  &#8220;But sir! I&#8217;m a good nazi!  I support the party&#8211;bang!  Over.  Finished.  One more step on the road toward the &#8220;Final Solution.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same in America.  If a white boss refuses to hire a black person for any reason, how much &#8220;I&#8217;m white&#8221; is going to convince that white boss?  How much &#8220;I&#8217;m an american too?&#8221; on the part of that black man will change the white boss&#8217;s mind?</p>
<p>What if someone told you that minorities couldn&#8217;t be Americans and couldn&#8217;t partake the greater prosperity and equality of America precisely because their skin was colored?  That is the essence of racism.</p>
<p>So, you see, if the victim of racism had the choice to overturn racism, racism wouldn&#8217;t be an issue.  Don&#8217;t blame the victim.</p>
<p>You are right about one thing though: change will come when a choice is made.  Specifically change will come when everyone (both those with power and those without), together, chose to put away racial differences as a method of social, political, economic, and spiritual selection.  Only then, will anyone truly be allowed to live in the the house, the neighborhood, the city, and the country he or she choses.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Shipley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Shipley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Racisim will not be over until minorities choose for it to be over.  Until personal responsibility is taken for their own well being and they refuse to be defined by the color of their skin this battle will rage on.  No amout of money, government based program, shift in hiring practices, handouts, or education will change this.  When minorities refuse to be defined by the color of their skin racisim will become irrelevant.  As long as the cultural and racial divide is celebrated and minorities choose to be defined as &quot;African Americans&quot; instead of &quot;Americans&quot; the lie will be perpetuated.  America will be judged for its culture of slavery and oppression of minorities, however, change can only happen when one takes personal responsibility and chooses to believe differently and act differently.  As long as rap music celebrates a culture of perverse language and objectivication of women and as long as government dependency exists there will be no real change.  The fact that people think that it matters what color of skin someone has in the whitehouse is racist.  Again, change will come when a choice is made.  You live in the house you choose to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Racisim will not be over until minorities choose for it to be over.  Until personal responsibility is taken for their own well being and they refuse to be defined by the color of their skin this battle will rage on.  No amout of money, government based program, shift in hiring practices, handouts, or education will change this.  When minorities refuse to be defined by the color of their skin racisim will become irrelevant.  As long as the cultural and racial divide is celebrated and minorities choose to be defined as &#8220;African Americans&#8221; instead of &#8220;Americans&#8221; the lie will be perpetuated.  America will be judged for its culture of slavery and oppression of minorities, however, change can only happen when one takes personal responsibility and chooses to believe differently and act differently.  As long as rap music celebrates a culture of perverse language and objectivication of women and as long as government dependency exists there will be no real change.  The fact that people think that it matters what color of skin someone has in the whitehouse is racist.  Again, change will come when a choice is made.  You live in the house you choose to make.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 18:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you with what you have said.  Seeing this from a black man&#039;s (that&#039;s what I am labeled although I am only 1/2 black like Obama and I am fairly proud of white family) point of view, many in the minority communities saw this as an end to an era and the start of something new.  But being black, everyone assumed I voted for Obama.  Like I&#039;m going to vote for someone just based on his skin color?!?  I think lots of blacks and other minorities did; just my assumption.  That&#039;s a form of racism.
Honestly the election of Obama reminded me of the end of Return of the Jedi where all the beings from every planet was celebrating the end of the Empire.  All the Star Wars junkies out there know that this is not the case.  Yes it is monumental event but in the Star Wars universe, the dark side still exists.  In our country, racism still exists.  
But the brilliant thing is, this election should be stirring believers to engage and encounter a lost, dark world.  What an open door to talk to people.  Thank you for your sharing that has spurred on discussion; as iron sharpens iron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you with what you have said.  Seeing this from a black man&#8217;s (that&#8217;s what I am labeled although I am only 1/2 black like Obama and I am fairly proud of white family) point of view, many in the minority communities saw this as an end to an era and the start of something new.  But being black, everyone assumed I voted for Obama.  Like I&#8217;m going to vote for someone just based on his skin color?!?  I think lots of blacks and other minorities did; just my assumption.  That&#8217;s a form of racism.<br />
Honestly the election of Obama reminded me of the end of Return of the Jedi where all the beings from every planet was celebrating the end of the Empire.  All the Star Wars junkies out there know that this is not the case.  Yes it is monumental event but in the Star Wars universe, the dark side still exists.  In our country, racism still exists.<br />
But the brilliant thing is, this election should be stirring believers to engage and encounter a lost, dark world.  What an open door to talk to people.  Thank you for your sharing that has spurred on discussion; as iron sharpens iron.</p>
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		<title>By: Karyn Hanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karyn Hanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Dan for your thoughtful and courageous writing.  I am so glad you know your history!  :)

I have heard that Tim Wise has written a new book called &quot;Between Barack and a Hard Spot.&quot;  He made a comment the last time I heard him speak suggesting that the very worst possible outcome of electing our first Black president would be folks thinking racism doesn&#039;t exist any more.  It is very dangerous to assume that a statistical outlier represents the experiences of the rest of the  people in a group.  I think the most important thing is the realization about how complex racism is.  We hope we are making progress but many need to do a lot more learning.  When Cornel West spoke in Portland he commented on the dilusion of progress.  We often blindly believe that the only direction things will go is toward good.  But we can take two steps forward and 3 back and the monster we are trying to get a hold of can completely morph into something else.  We chase the traces left but the real thing eludes us.

In my family there was a lot of crying on January 20th.  It just kind of rose up out of the people I know and love.  We all had someone that we wished were alive to see that day.  One very strong and committed activist I know, a Black woman  in whose face I often see a great weariness, simply said that she has started to notice that people look her in the eye more often now.  She feels like she has suddenly appeared.

Let&#039;s remain vigilant while we also breath in this moment.  I think it will strengthen us for the long haul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Dan for your thoughtful and courageous writing.  I am so glad you know your history!  <img src='http://consumingjesus.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I have heard that Tim Wise has written a new book called &#8220;Between Barack and a Hard Spot.&#8221;  He made a comment the last time I heard him speak suggesting that the very worst possible outcome of electing our first Black president would be folks thinking racism doesn&#8217;t exist any more.  It is very dangerous to assume that a statistical outlier represents the experiences of the rest of the  people in a group.  I think the most important thing is the realization about how complex racism is.  We hope we are making progress but many need to do a lot more learning.  When Cornel West spoke in Portland he commented on the dilusion of progress.  We often blindly believe that the only direction things will go is toward good.  But we can take two steps forward and 3 back and the monster we are trying to get a hold of can completely morph into something else.  We chase the traces left but the real thing eludes us.</p>
<p>In my family there was a lot of crying on January 20th.  It just kind of rose up out of the people I know and love.  We all had someone that we wished were alive to see that day.  One very strong and committed activist I know, a Black woman  in whose face I often see a great weariness, simply said that she has started to notice that people look her in the eye more often now.  She feels like she has suddenly appeared.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s remain vigilant while we also breath in this moment.  I think it will strengthen us for the long haul.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Louis Metzger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Louis Metzger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your insights, Daniel.  Dr. King&#039;s vision was so complex and multi-faceted.  The election of an African American man as President of the United States is very important, but there is still much more work needing to be done if King&#039;s dream is to be fully realized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your insights, Daniel.  Dr. King&#8217;s vision was so complex and multi-faceted.  The election of an African American man as President of the United States is very important, but there is still much more work needing to be done if King&#8217;s dream is to be fully realized.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelsi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very stimulating and crucial points that you raise! I resonate with what you are saying, and as Rachel says, I think in many ways this is the &quot;quick fix&quot; we are foolishly banking on to feel better about a problem of which we all have ownership. The deadly temptation is to feed into the lie that racism has abolished--and with out any real sacrifice on our part. How lovely! In many ways, I see how the inauguration of a black man can serve as a double edged sword. While in many valid ways it shows progress, it also provides the temptation for evangelicals (and beyond) to sit back and see this as the end of a very long, very arduous, very critical journey that we are still very much on (as you very articulated very affectively). 

The question you posed sums it up well: how many neighborhoods would celebrate in community or appreciate in value over the arrival of a black family now that there is a black president? This is just one evidence of many that racism is much much too deep to be absolved over Obama&#039;s election. My main concern is this: we must still understand that we as individuals as part of the bigger systems (in our church, schools, neighborhoods, etc...) as still very much responsible for a continued, intentional journey to reconcile minorities with majorities, and it is deeply destructive to sit back and act as if we are no longer part of the problem now that there is a black man out there who we call &quot;president&quot;. Yes this shows a glimmer of hope, but my earnest prayer is that this lights the fire behind us to propel us with more intensity and vigor to love our neighbor, to serve minorities and allow them to serve us, to listen to one another, to earnestly seek solutions, rather than let the fire die because change is now no longer needed. This is the time when we must be encouraged and ignited for more change, not celebrate the consummation of a problem that once was and is no longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very stimulating and crucial points that you raise! I resonate with what you are saying, and as Rachel says, I think in many ways this is the &#8220;quick fix&#8221; we are foolishly banking on to feel better about a problem of which we all have ownership. The deadly temptation is to feed into the lie that racism has abolished&#8211;and with out any real sacrifice on our part. How lovely! In many ways, I see how the inauguration of a black man can serve as a double edged sword. While in many valid ways it shows progress, it also provides the temptation for evangelicals (and beyond) to sit back and see this as the end of a very long, very arduous, very critical journey that we are still very much on (as you very articulated very affectively). </p>
<p>The question you posed sums it up well: how many neighborhoods would celebrate in community or appreciate in value over the arrival of a black family now that there is a black president? This is just one evidence of many that racism is much much too deep to be absolved over Obama&#8217;s election. My main concern is this: we must still understand that we as individuals as part of the bigger systems (in our church, schools, neighborhoods, etc&#8230;) as still very much responsible for a continued, intentional journey to reconcile minorities with majorities, and it is deeply destructive to sit back and act as if we are no longer part of the problem now that there is a black man out there who we call &#8220;president&#8221;. Yes this shows a glimmer of hope, but my earnest prayer is that this lights the fire behind us to propel us with more intensity and vigor to love our neighbor, to serve minorities and allow them to serve us, to listen to one another, to earnestly seek solutions, rather than let the fire die because change is now no longer needed. This is the time when we must be encouraged and ignited for more change, not celebrate the consummation of a problem that once was and is no longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel O'Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes and yes!  Thank you for this riveting and at times witty post.  I am amazed at the way you have articulated the many facetes of racism as both personal and systemic and that you have noted that it would in fact be easier to vote an African American into presidency than it would be for many of us to have dinner with one.  I agree we are asking the wrong questions, as Christians are apt to do, when we ask, “Is racism over now that we have a black man as President?”   As church goers it is clear that it is not.  Our demographics on Sunday&#039;s proves it and yet it seems that we attempt a great pat on the back because Obama sits where he does, allowing us to continue to sit where we do. But this static Church is in fact festering.  How easy we find our lives, with an African American president, as long as our congregation does not change, as long as our work place and neighorhood does not change.  We can attribute a great success by noting one person in office, rather than finding the failures we act out, intentionally and unintentionally, every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes and yes!  Thank you for this riveting and at times witty post.  I am amazed at the way you have articulated the many facetes of racism as both personal and systemic and that you have noted that it would in fact be easier to vote an African American into presidency than it would be for many of us to have dinner with one.  I agree we are asking the wrong questions, as Christians are apt to do, when we ask, “Is racism over now that we have a black man as President?”   As church goers it is clear that it is not.  Our demographics on Sunday&#8217;s proves it and yet it seems that we attempt a great pat on the back because Obama sits where he does, allowing us to continue to sit where we do. But this static Church is in fact festering.  How easy we find our lives, with an African American president, as long as our congregation does not change, as long as our work place and neighorhood does not change.  We can attribute a great success by noting one person in office, rather than finding the failures we act out, intentionally and unintentionally, every day.</p>
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