Comments for Consuming Jesus http://consumingjesus.org Beyond Race and Class Issues In a Consumer Church Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:07:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 Comment on Interview with Clifford Chappell by Jan Robertson http://consumingjesus.org/2010/06/14/interview-with-clifford-chappell/comment-page-1/#comment-1361 Jan Robertson Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:07:11 +0000 http://consumingjesus.org/2010/06/14/interview-with-clifford-chappell/#comment-1361 As a grateful and humble part of your congregation in North Portland, I want to thank you Pastor Cliff, for practicing what you preach! As a grateful and humble part of your congregation in North Portland, I want to thank you Pastor Cliff, for practicing what you preach!

]]> Comment on Interview with Clifford Chappell by Lindsey Smith http://consumingjesus.org/2010/06/14/interview-with-clifford-chappell/comment-page-1/#comment-1349 Lindsey Smith Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:24:56 +0000 http://consumingjesus.org/2010/06/14/interview-with-clifford-chappell/#comment-1349 I appreciate the light that you are shining on this issue Rev. Chappell as it is complex. What I most appreciate about your approach to opening the dialogue is that you desire it to be a discussion, not a debate or a hostile exchange of idealogies. Im challenged by you each time I read an article you've published and each time I hear you share in person. You are opening my eyes to racism and inviting me in to a conversation about it as well as encouraging me to stop being passive regarding it, and to become more aware of the depth and complexity of it. I pray you will keep speaking, writing and sharing. Thank you Rev. Chappell. I appreciate the light that you are shining on this issue Rev. Chappell as it is complex. What I most appreciate about your approach to opening the dialogue is that you desire it to be a discussion, not a debate or a hostile exchange of idealogies. Im challenged by you each time I read an article you’ve published and each time I hear you share in person. You are opening my eyes to racism and inviting me in to a conversation about it as well as encouraging me to stop being passive regarding it, and to become more aware of the depth and complexity of it. I pray you will keep speaking, writing and sharing. Thank you Rev. Chappell.

]]> Comment on Interview with Clifford Chappell by Scott Frazier http://consumingjesus.org/2010/06/14/interview-with-clifford-chappell/comment-page-1/#comment-1340 Scott Frazier Fri, 18 Jun 2010 06:17:12 +0000 http://consumingjesus.org/2010/06/14/interview-with-clifford-chappell/#comment-1340 Thank you for your work Rev. Chappell. I desire to see Portland as an example of the beauty of diversity worshiping God together as you mention. Maybe with a handful of seasoned veterans like yourself and some intentional, albeit raised ignorant, people like myself, we can see Portland transformed. I look forward to your next article. Thank you for your work Rev. Chappell. I desire to see Portland as an example of the beauty of diversity worshiping God together as you mention. Maybe with a handful of seasoned veterans like yourself and some intentional, albeit raised ignorant, people like myself, we can see Portland transformed. I look forward to your next article.

]]> Comment on Interview with Clifford Chappell by Weston Ruter http://consumingjesus.org/2010/06/14/interview-with-clifford-chappell/comment-page-1/#comment-1338 Weston Ruter Thu, 17 Jun 2010 04:18:05 +0000 http://consumingjesus.org/2010/06/14/interview-with-clifford-chappell/#comment-1338 I appreciate, Cliff, your invaluable perspective on the issue of racism. Sadly within the homogeneous bubble of the ethnic majority, there is much blindness toward reality. My eyes are further opened by the light you are sharing. Thank you! I appreciate you! I appreciate, Cliff, your invaluable perspective on the issue of racism. Sadly within the homogeneous bubble of the ethnic majority, there is much blindness toward reality. My eyes are further opened by the light you are sharing. Thank you! I appreciate you!

]]> Comment on Interview with Clifford Chappell by Cooky http://consumingjesus.org/2010/06/14/interview-with-clifford-chappell/comment-page-1/#comment-1335 Cooky Wed, 16 Jun 2010 02:56:58 +0000 http://consumingjesus.org/2010/06/14/interview-with-clifford-chappell/#comment-1335 I appreciated Rev. Chappell's candid article regarding ongoing race issues in this country, and was struck by how timely in was in view of the many tragic race-related issues which have occurred here in Portland. I continue to appreciate how New Wine, New Wineskins and Drum Majors for Love Truth and Justice have stepped up and stepped out in seeking redemptive ways to discuss these very complex issues of race. Thank you Rev. Chappell for your ongoing courage and boldness. I share your vision..."if we can see our individual differences as a bouquet that enhances the beauty of our diversity instead of as something to divide us, we will begin to see the real beauty that God intended, and celebrate our diversity as we worship and serve our God. " To that end, we continue on. Amen I appreciated Rev. Chappell’s candid article regarding ongoing race issues in this country, and was struck by how timely in was in view of the many tragic race-related issues which have occurred here in Portland. I continue to appreciate how New Wine, New Wineskins and Drum Majors for Love Truth and Justice have stepped up and stepped out in seeking redemptive ways to discuss these very complex issues of race. Thank you Rev. Chappell for your ongoing courage and boldness. I share your vision…”if we can see our individual differences as a bouquet that enhances the beauty of our diversity instead of as something to divide us, we will begin to see the real beauty that God intended, and celebrate our diversity as we worship and serve our God. ” To that end, we continue on. Amen

]]> Comment on Prophecy Smack Down: Walt Disney vs. the Apostle John by Bryan Dormaier http://consumingjesus.org/2009/11/23/prophecy-smack-down-walt-disney-vs-the-apostle-john/comment-page-1/#comment-1334 Bryan Dormaier Wed, 16 Jun 2010 00:14:03 +0000 http://consumingjesus.org/?p=115#comment-1334 Hi Mike, I'm not sure why you are replying to me. This post was guest-written by Dan Fan, and focuses on how the Epcot's Tomorrow World ignores (perhaps inadvertently) minorities in its view of the future. I agree with you that God would be upset, because he's made it perfectly clear that he has saved a plurality of different people from all kinds of cultures, and for those of us who are white american christians, we risk doing the same thing in our portrayal of Christ's church (perhaps also inadvertently) when we only think of that which is happening in white churches as the wave of the future (emergent anyone? shoot, even my own tribe - missional - is not the best in this regard). Thanks for the comment bro, may we all look forward to the day that Christ returns and God finishes getting back what God wants. Hi Mike,

I’m not sure why you are replying to me. This post was guest-written by Dan Fan, and focuses on how the Epcot’s Tomorrow World ignores (perhaps inadvertently) minorities in its view of the future.

I agree with you that God would be upset, because he’s made it perfectly clear that he has saved a plurality of different people from all kinds of cultures, and for those of us who are white american christians, we risk doing the same thing in our portrayal of Christ’s church (perhaps also inadvertently) when we only think of that which is happening in white churches as the wave of the future (emergent anyone? shoot, even my own tribe – missional – is not the best in this regard).

Thanks for the comment bro, may we all look forward to the day that Christ returns and God finishes getting back what God wants.

]]> Comment on Interview with Clifford Chappell by Ronn E http://consumingjesus.org/2010/06/14/interview-with-clifford-chappell/comment-page-1/#comment-1332 Ronn E Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:00:49 +0000 http://consumingjesus.org/2010/06/14/interview-with-clifford-chappell/#comment-1332 Thank you for clearly stating what should be obvious to all of us, but often times is not: That the ghost of Jim Crow is alive and doing quite fine, thank you, in our country. It's not "if" you write a follow-up column, it's "when." I hope that time is soon. Thank you for clearly stating what should be obvious to all of us, but often times is not: That the ghost of Jim Crow is alive and doing quite fine, thank you, in our country. It’s not “if” you write a follow-up column, it’s “when.” I hope that time is soon.

]]> Comment on Prophecy Smack Down: Walt Disney vs. the Apostle John by Mike James http://consumingjesus.org/2009/11/23/prophecy-smack-down-walt-disney-vs-the-apostle-john/comment-page-1/#comment-1330 Mike James Tue, 15 Jun 2010 07:44:46 +0000 http://consumingjesus.org/?p=115#comment-1330 Brian, I can see what you are saying, and you are right. If Walt Disney could see this, he would rool over in his grave! But yet, you can't upset anybody now... I have to ask myself how much longer that God will put up with this. It is beginning to show signs of coming to the point where man will soon be able to do the stuff that God alone was able to do, including the ability to create synthetic lifw. How much longer will He put up with this? Come Blessed day. Brian, I can see what you are saying, and you are right. If Walt Disney could see this, he would rool over in his grave! But yet, you can’t upset anybody now…

I have to ask myself how much longer that God will put up with this. It is beginning to show signs of coming to the point where man will soon be able to do the stuff that God alone was able to do, including the ability to create synthetic lifw. How much longer will He put up with this?

Come Blessed day.

]]> Comment on Interview with Clifford Chappell by Derek C http://consumingjesus.org/2010/06/14/interview-with-clifford-chappell/comment-page-1/#comment-1329 Derek C Tue, 15 Jun 2010 06:11:30 +0000 http://consumingjesus.org/2010/06/14/interview-with-clifford-chappell/#comment-1329 Thank you for the timely post. In light of the New Wine events in April and recent incidents in Portland, this is important conversation to continue. Along with a political climate giving rise to things like Arizona's illegal immigrant legislation it would be helpful to hear of redemptive, Christ-centered ways to discuss these matters as they pertain to race. I realize these are not solely race issues. Yet the role of race in these concerns shouldn't be dismissed because some think "we've arrived" on racism, as Rev. Chappell indicates. Thank you for the timely post. In light of the New Wine events in April and recent incidents in Portland, this is important conversation to continue. Along with a political climate giving rise to things like Arizona’s illegal immigrant legislation it would be helpful to hear of redemptive, Christ-centered ways to discuss these matters as they pertain to race. I realize these are not solely race issues. Yet the role of race in these concerns shouldn’t be dismissed because some think “we’ve arrived” on racism, as Rev. Chappell indicates.

]]> Comment on From the Trenches|Curtis May, Grace Communion International by Paul Louis Metzger http://consumingjesus.org/2010/03/16/from-the-trenchescurtis-may-grace-communion-international/comment-page-1/#comment-1212 Paul Louis Metzger Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:26:33 +0000 http://consumingjesus.org/2010/03/16/from-the-trenchescurtis-may-grace-communion-international/#comment-1212 Hello, Curtis. Thank you for your faithful service to Christ. I am grateful to the Lord for your heart and your ministry vision. In Jesus, Paul Hello, Curtis. Thank you for your faithful service to Christ. I am grateful to the Lord for your heart and your ministry vision.

In Jesus,

Paul

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